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326lbs of Texas Swordfish

This is from Capt_Dan he runs our sister site in Texas!!

Congrads to the entire crew on a job well done!

Capt_Dan wrote:

Well Fellas, some things are just meant to be. We left for a double overnighter this Friday to great weather and fantastic company. After deciding at the last minute to take the Don Smith over the cat for the double overnighter we left the dock headed for the promise land. The first night was fairly uneventful with 4 bites and no fish then Sat was loaded with deep drop excitement. We KILLED the golden tiles with the Precision Auto Reel; we must have cranked up 25 miles of line! Anyway it was getting dark and we decided to start swording again. We get to the spot first line out and 10 minutes later well history was made... Congrats Shayne on the new Texas State Record Broadbill. With Wacker as our teacher our group of friends have set the mark to beat in Lone Star Sword fishing. Our team was fan-freaking-tastic. People seldom realize that fishing is a true team sport, there is NO WAY this fish could have hit the deck without the effort of everyone on board. It was just one of those nights that everything went perfect. Shayne is a true machine on the rod and a hell of a guy, I look forward to many great trips in the future. That man could crank in a train. Wacker thanks for teaching us the art of sword fishing and being the reason that all of us were in the position we were last night. Until the day I die I can say I leadered the TEXAS State Record Sword Fish! Shayne that fish is going to look AWESOME in your den!!!! Don the new Savage Rod "The BEAST" had one hell of a welcome. The rod is the best I have ever seen and did everything it was supposed to and more, just ask Shayne! I think everyone will chime in here. And Oh YEA SUPERMAP IS THE SHIT!!!! BOOM!!!!

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This is taken from a post on FryingPanTower.Com about Wahoo fishing but I thought ya'll my like to read this part...
http://fryingpantower.com/ftopict-14471.html

Temp breaks are very important....in the spring and fall when warm water is here and cold water is there. This time of year it is ALL warm. If you look at any SST shot it will look "Muddeled". Unless they "Dumb" it down to say 1 degree breaks. (We do not do this...we give you the temp...Kind of like a color scope vs a b/w with fish symbols)

SST's can very good this time of year showing you the movement of the water. IT is this movement during the warm months that you pay attention to.

Here is what I do....
I pull up an SST....Find the Correct Temp Range...

This is the Modis Shot from Aug 31st 2:24 am ->Color Ramp->All (I clicked on the image)

You can see where the hot water is pushing over the break...



Now I flip over to Clor....
The Modis Clor shot suxed so I used teh SeaView Shot...
IF though the shot kind of suxs you can that there is Blue Water to the North and Green Water Inshore. This matches what we are seeing in the SST Image....



Now I flip over to SSH in SeaView
You can see HIGH water to the North and Offshore and LOW water South and Inshore. Once angain we see the same pattern right along the break where the even water is.



Now SeaView Salinty...
You see the SAME Feature....


and Last But Not Least....My Personal Favorite
SeaView Mixed Layer Depth...

This one is Zoomed in the Area in Question....


This shows two Troughs of LOW MLD being pushed tot he North.

What we want to do is fish right inbetween the area of HIGH Thermocline and LOW thermocline. It is this area that is the "Converance Zone" as discussed in Fish Finding from Space, The Hand Book.
http://map.fishthecarolinacoast.com/ads/Fishfinding%20From%20Space_Sport_Secure.pdf





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Industry worries about new members of council
http://www.easthamptonstar.com/dnn/Archive/Home20090806/News/FishermenCryFoul/tabid/9660/Default.aspx
By Russell Drumm

(08/06/2009) When the names of new state delegates to the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council were announced in June, representatives of both commercial and recreational fisheries cried foul. Even the council’s executive director and New York’s director of marine resources seemed puzzled. East Hampton Town officials plan to protest.

Critics have said this was a new strategy by well-funded environmental groups to unnecessarily curtail landings and reduce the size of East Coast fishing fleets by circumventing the grassroots approach to choosing delegates to the federally empowered management council.

Stuffing council seats was the latest effort, they said, by groups including the Pew Charitable Trusts and the Environmental Defense Fund to paint an unrealistically dark picture of the ocean’s resources at a time when both fishermen and the government’s own scientists report robust stock recoveries.

According to those close to the process, the goal was to gain control of policy without the necessary vetting of management concepts that normally begins when people with broad experience in the field recommend delegate candidates to each state’s marine resource agencies, including the Department of Environmental Conservation in New York. The vetting normally continues when those agencies review the candidates and pass their own recommendations to the governor.

This was not done in the case of three newly appointed delegates to the council, said Arnold Leo, secretary of the East Hampton Town Baymen’s Association and a director of the town’s fisheries consultancy and committee.

According to the Magnuson-Stevens Act, the body of United States fishing law, the final picks are made from the governors’ list at the Department of Commerce headquarters in Washington, D.C., and its subagencies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and its National Marine Fisheries Service.

There are eight federally empowered management councils nationwide that set fishing regulations that are codified and enforced by the fisheries service. The Mid-Atlantic Council oversees species found outside of the three-mile state jurisdictions between New York and North Carolina.

Since President Barack Obama took office and selected Jane Lubchenko to serve as NOAA administrator, the agency has aggressively advocated a fundamental change in the way the fishery resource is managed, according to a NOAA spokesman, from a scheme in which fishermen have open access to a common resource managed by quotas and seasons, to a system in which fishermen are given “catch shares” of a government-restricted resource, under strict rules of eligibility, or else remain in an even more restricted common pool.

Proponents say the catch-share system extends fishing seasons, reduces the overall catch, and tends to raise the price of fish at the dock. Opponents say the approach forces many out of business, and destroys the fabric of shoreside communities. In the process, they say, catch limits are set far lower than necessary to maintain sustainability, which is a rate of fishing that will not endanger the resource.

The Long Island Commercial Fishing Association is not alone in its opposition to the catch-share model. The group claims that the result would be a marketplace governed not by the laws of supply and demand, but one in which catch shares are traded like a commodity with prices directly tied to “total allowable catches” set by the federal government.

Dan Furlong, executive director of the Mid-Atlantic Council said catch shares were attractive in some ways, but “administratively burdensome.”

According to Richard Gaines, a veteran reporter with the Gloucester Times in Massachusetts who has written extensively about what he calls the “Pewification” of the fisheries, the catch-share concept now being promoted by NOAA was largely an academic enterprise. It had been percolating for years within a network of academic institutions and staged media symposiums largely funded by environmental organizations especially by the Pew Charitable Trusts and the Environmental Defense Fund.

Lee Crockett, the director of Pew’s federal fisheries reform polices, said, “We have nothing going on regarding council appointments. I don’t think catch shares should be the across-the-board, de facto management scheme.”

NOAA’s new director, Ms. Lubchen­ko, is a Pew scholar from the University of Washington, an ocean scientist who served on the board of trustees of the Environmental Defense Fund, and served as its chairman in 2005. E.D.F. is funded, in part, by the Pew Charitable Trusts. Once appointed, Ms. Lubchen­ko named Justine Kenny to push the catch-share agenda for the agency. Ms. Kenny was the director of communications for the Pew trusts.

Bonnie Brady, executive director of the Long Island Commercial Fishing Association, said the fear was that by circumventing the delegate appointment system, decades of accepted science and at-sea experience will be replaced by unfounded dogma.

Ms. Brady claimed that much of the science used to discredit the current U.S. management schemes and to paint an unfairly dire view of the resource had an incestuous relationship with the organizations funding it, and with the media outlets that reported it. “Peer reviews say they’re using faulty science,” Ms. Brady said. “The dirty little secret is, stocks are recovered. We’ve done the pain, where’s the gain?”

In a recent report to Congress, NOAA stated that 77 percent of 199 species studied to see if they were being overfished were not. Scientists also reviewed 251 species to see which were being harvested at too high a level. Only 41 stocks, or 16 percent were considered overfished. Monica Allen, a NOAA spokeswoman, said the important statistic was the fish stock sustainability index, a tracking model created with the Sustainable Fisheries Act of 1996, which set stock recovery deadlines. “It’s risen, a sign of improving information and condition of fish stocks.”

Ms. Brady said the most recent appointments to the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council were a troubling example of an attempt by powerful environmental groups to crowd fishermen out of management decisions.

In June, the governors of New York, New Jersey, and Virginia chose delegates to the Mid-Atlantic Council: Steven Schafer of New York, Christopher Zeman of New Jersey, and Peter deFur of Virginia, whose names were not well known to the industries they are supposed to represent. They had not been recommended to the governors by the state agencies overseeing marine resources, as has been the accepted norm since the councils were created in 1976.

Instead, their names apparently went directly to Govs. David A. Paterson, Jon Corzine, and Tim Kaine. How this was done is the subject of a freedom of information request by The East Hampton Star to the office of Mr. Paterson, and is the subject of an enquiry by Representative Tim Bishop.

The question of who, specifically, recommended Messrs. Zeman, Schafer, and deFur was put to all three executive chambers. Press agents for Mr. Paterson and Mr. Corzine would not comment. A spokesman for Mr. Cane said Mr. deFur’s name had come out of the governor’s own cabinet.

“I had never heard of him until after the appointments,” Jim Gilmore, the New York Department of Environmental Conservation’s director of marine resources, said of Mr. Schafer.

Mr. Gilmore said Mr. Schafer had not been recommended by his agency, even though it was customary for the governor to choose his delegation from the list proffered by the D.E.C. Mr. Gilmore was quick to add, however, that there was nothing on the books to prevent others from submitting prospective candidates to the governor. “The real decision is the National Marine Fisheries Service’s — the N.M.F.S. administrator,” Mr. Gilmore said.

Mr. Schafer’s at-large seat means he will be involved in commercial fishing issues relative to New York and elsewhere within the council’s purview. He won the seat over three experienced candidates the D.E.C. had reviewed: Emerson Hasbrouck, an agent for the Cornell Cooperative Extension who has been involved for decades in the state’s commercial fisheries, Dan Farnham, a veteran longline fisherman from Montauk, and Mark Phillips, a draggerman long involved in fishery issues from the North Fork.

In addition to being a former professional golfer, Mr. Schafer is director of retail operations for Wild Edibles, a seafood shop in New York City. The “personal fisheries experience” form submitted to the Mid-Atlantic Council noted that he was “a seafood expert relied upon by Martha Stewart, and the New York Times, among others. It also described him as “an affable man with all-American good looks.”

Mr. Schafer has worked with the nonprofit group Blue Ocean Institute founded by Carl Safina of Amagansett, a Pew scholar. Reached on Monday, Mr. Safina said he had written a letter of recommendation for Mr. Schafer. “He waged a prolonged and energetic campaign to get through the vetting. He met with everybody, got letters of support, really went after it. He spoke to a variety of people in NOAA and the Congressional delegation.”

Mr. Safina said, “catch shares are generally extremely good if they have the right safeguards . . . you want to be mindful of certain social considerations,” he said, adding that the shares should be owned by those actually fishing, not by corporations of processing plants that make sharecroppers of everybody.”

Mr. Schafer could not be reached for his views on catch shares versus the current management scheme, but critics claim it is his inexperience that was at issue.

“The Magnuson Act requires a balanced makeup of the council — commercial, recreational, and other, which usually means environmental, or scientific representatives. We were outraged by Steven Schafer,” Mr. Leo said yesterday. “He is obviously not commercial. The Town of East Hampton had written a letter to the governor recommending Dan Farnham, Emerson Hasbrouck, or Mark Phillips. We are extremely unhappy that someone with such obvious environmental connections has been given one of the commercial positions on the council,” Mr. Leo said.

New Jersey’s new delegate, Mr. Zeman, is an attorney for Zurich North America and has worked with leading environmental groups such as the Ocean Law Project, American Oceans Campaign, and Oceana. Oceana was created in 1999 with underwriting from the Pew Charitable Trusts.

Mr. deFur, the delegate for Virginia, is president of Environmental Stewardship Concepts and teaches at Virginia Commonwealth University. He has served on the staff of the Pew-funded Environmental Defense Fund, whose president, Fred Krupp, has championed the harnessing of market forces for environmental ends, the goal of catch-share management.

All three delegates begin their three-year terms on Tuesday with the possibility of serving for the next nine years.

Dan Furlong, executive director of the Mid-Atlantic Council, said council delegates “are supposedly knowledgeable. None of the people who are new have been engaged with our council. The governor has to appoint qualified people. The criteria is specific,” Mr. Furlong said, going on to cite the section of the Magnuson-Stevens Act that states that governors may not submit a name unless he or she has determined the candidate is qualified after consulting with commercial and recreational users of the resource.

Lori Nolan is the council delegate who left New York’s delegate seat open after completing her third three-year term representing commercial fishing interests. She said that with the new slate of delegates, the Mid-Atlantic Council had no delegate with any actual fishing or industry-related experience outside of the states’ three-mile limit, which is the council’s jurisdiction.

Tony DiLernia, a veteran charter fisherman who represented sportfishing interests as a state delegate from 1991 to 2002, said he saw a sea change in the way fishing policy was being debated and shaped. He said in the past it was the sportfishing industry and the market (commercial) industry that went head-to-head over quota shares and other regulations.

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In the picture of the crew--from left to right: Barry Thomas, Rich Stracensky, Ryan Kellogg and Capt. Bob Gerkens.


one being South Chatham Tackle's Swimming hook,[/b]]]> no_email@example.com (offshorebob) http://www.newyork-offshore.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=8#8 http://www.newyork-offshore.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6#6 My name is Captain Dave Tilley. I live in Carolina Beach, North Carolina. I hold a 100 ton Masters License and operate the 100+ foot Head Boat Continental Shelf based in Morehead City, NC.

http://www.continentalshelf.com/

I have been offshore fishing for the last 20 years. 15 years professionally. I have run just about everything under the sun at one point or another from Charter Boats to Head Boats to Sailboats to skiffs. If it swims in the Atlantic Ocean I have caught it at one time or another. (That is not far from the truth) I love Gulfstream Fishing but Day in and Day out I am a Bottom Fisherman. Grouper Groping is my Thing!

I started in Internet fishing forums WAY back when they were BBS's (before what we know as the Internet)

The last 6 years I have developed (With the help of MANY people) FryingPanTower.Com - Fishing The Carolina Coast.
You can see it here....
http://www.fryingpantower.com

Supermap is 20 years of Offshore Fishing Experience drilled down to 1 application. Every piece of information needed to fish offshore ....all in one place.

A couple things about this site you will find out pretty quick.

This site is about Fishing PERIOD, it is part of a network of sites from Maine to Texas. There are no dumb questions here. Feel free to ask anything basic or advanced. We will try to help. Hopefully over time folks will find this site useful without all the BS that you have to wade though on most sites.

There are no questions that warrant a Smart Ass reply or anything else that is not polite and helpful. I run a very clean site. That does not mean I delete things....That means if you act like an asshole...I will show you the door. If you go up and check out FryingPanTower.Com you will see this throughout the site. The good folks stick around...and the others exit stage left.

It is not about Politics or who did what to who. I hate “Drama”. It is about Fishing. We will try to keep it that way.

I am a firm believer in giving back to the fishing community. That is one reason just about everything here is free.

We will be offering FREE Full Hosting accounts to ANY Fishing Club in the State. We will be offering 100% FREE hosting accounts to any Marine Based Charities. We will be Offering 100% FREE advertising to all Charter Boats. ( I am very good at SEO-This site will be at the top of the Search Engines as soon as I have time to work on it) There are no strings to any of this. Free means free.

There are a couple more faces that you will see here. I will let them do their own Intros...

I hope you enjoy the site. If there is anything I can do for you please feel free to e-mail me at admin@fryingpantower.com and remember...."It's a HAPPY Thang"

Sincerely,
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